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Star Wars Forums :: Star Wars Films :: Animation: The Clone Wars :: Are the Jedi evil? « Page 3 of 3 Jump to page   Go     Poll Poll Question: Are the Jedi evil? Poll Options:   You must be logged in to vote in this poll. The Jedi are servants of the light (1 vote, 6.6%) Good, but every institution has its flaws (6 votes, 40%) No better or worse than any other organisation (1 vote, 6.6%) They are not evil individually, but the Order was (1 vote, 6.6%) Yes, they were evil (0 votes, 0%) Praise the Sith! (5 votes, 33.3%) Don't know/don't care (0 votes, 0%) What were you smoking/its just a movie (1 vote, 6.6%) Poll Totals:   Total Votes: 15 Total Voters: 15 Author Topic: Are the Jedi evil? (Read 384 times) Revan Jedi Apprentice member is offline Joined: Apr 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 276 Location: Vanguard Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #30 on Oct 10, 2008, 4:09am » well... my opinion,based on the experience from real life...maybe next time i tell why...is that the good luck,and things like that may be true,but i think what we dont work for, we dont have...and thast true ... so the Jedi are evil in one wiev point..they try to ignore the suffering My opinion Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "We grew stronger while you rested in your cradle of power, believing your people were safe...protected. You were trusted to lead the Republic but you were deceived, as our powers over the dark side had blinded you. You assumed no force could challenge you and now...finally, we have returned.You were deceived. And now, your Republic shall fall." "Who I am is not important—my message is." Maestro Jedi Knight member is offline "If music be the food of love, play on."-Shakespeare Joined: Apr 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 1,338 Location: Hyperspace Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #31 on Oct 10, 2008, 10:41am » I disagree: to be evil you have to have evil as an intention. The jedi, if they ever did something bad, did it by accident or ignorism. Overall, their mission was good. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Bach rocks!!! http://musicmeaning-maestro.blogspot.com/ thelastadmiral Back to the Light member is offline Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 725 Location: Toronto, Canada Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #32 on Oct 10, 2008, 1:22pm » Then Hitler, Stalin, and Osama Bin Laden are probably not to be considered evil. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "At an end your rule is, and not short enough it was". - Grand Master Yoda "Trust no one." - The X-Files Revan Jedi Apprentice member is offline Joined: Apr 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 276 Location: Vanguard Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #33 on Oct 10, 2008, 9:14pm » Allright nevermind,maybe i catched it wrong.Stalin,Hitler and Osama were,or are very evil person,but because they wanted be evil. I see as the largest mistake of the Jedi knights to try blindly follow the light and trust in hope,thus ignoring the suffering that is present everyvhere even in the Star Wars universe Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "We grew stronger while you rested in your cradle of power, believing your people were safe...protected. You were trusted to lead the Republic but you were deceived, as our powers over the dark side had blinded you. You assumed no force could challenge you and now...finally, we have returned.You were deceived. And now, your Republic shall fall." "Who I am is not important—my message is." Skywalker Jedi Knight member is offline I am Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight Joined: Mar 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 1,350 Location: Skopje, Macedonia Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #34 on Oct 11, 2008, 3:01am » Oct 10, 2008, 1:22pm, thelastadmiral wrote: Then Hitler, Stalin, and Osama Bin Laden are probably not to be considered evil. Depends on the point of view. Never deal in an absolute, keep a skeptic stance towards all that is considered to be undeniably so. That said, I'm not disagreeing with the "evilness" of this jolly trio, nor agreeing, since this isn't really the place to do so. Use a Star Wars comparison, lest you wish to (and I know you do ) start a political debate. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Drugs have the unique and beneficent properties of: * Making a person feel happy * Making him simultaneously cool * Making everyone else uncool until they start using drugs too. Maestro Jedi Knight member is offline "If music be the food of love, play on."-Shakespeare Joined: Apr 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 1,338 Location: Hyperspace Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #35 on Oct 11, 2008, 5:01am » Well, I see your point, Admiral, but I just think that the Jedi overall worked against forces who were purposefully evil, like the sith, therefore making them good. THey didn't just kill, in fact it was against the code to kill if the enemy could be taken prisoner. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Bach rocks!!! http://musicmeaning-maestro.blogspot.com/ thelastadmiral Back to the Light member is offline Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 725 Location: Toronto, Canada Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #36 on Oct 11, 2008, 5:15am » Well, my point is that a lot of people who are considered evil beleived they were doing the right thing, at least in part. Even Hitler had beliefs he was fighting for, warped as they were. Jabba the Hutt is a Star Wars example I think of someone who's evil for the fun of it. He just seems to enjoy lying around eating and abusing his slaves. He's not fighting for any cause. He just enjoys the wealth and power. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "At an end your rule is, and not short enough it was". - Grand Master Yoda "Trust no one." - The X-Files Maestro Jedi Knight member is offline "If music be the food of love, play on."-Shakespeare Joined: Apr 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 1,338 Location: Hyperspace Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #37 on Oct 11, 2008, 5:43am » Yeah, but the jedi were self-less, and always did what was best for their citizens. I don't know, I just think that their mission was good. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Bach rocks!!! http://musicmeaning-maestro.blogspot.com/ zarkai Force Sensitive member is offline Joined: Mar 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 16 Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #38 on Mar 11, 2009, 2:34am » Sept 19, 2008, 10:47pm, Skywalker wrote: Sept 18, 2008, 9:26am, Maestro wrote: Yeah, I guess. But he was the chosen one, right? He killed the sith order for a while. Yes he is. The Chosen One was to bring balance to the Force. "The idea of balance of the Force, a central tenet of the Jedi Order, refers to the ideal state in which the Force exists in nature, i.e. as the light side. The presence of the dark side corrupts and destroys this natural balance and the Jedi viewed it as their duty to restore it." So with the sacrifice of the entire Jedi Order, millions of people and even planets, the prophecy was fulfilled, with Anakin Skywalker, influencing all of those events. Finally the sith were destroyed. Sept 18, 2008, 10:44am, thelastadmiral wrote: Well I was not aware that the Lost Twenty refered only to masters. I'll check that, but given your obvious knowledge as demonstrated in the trivia quiz, I'm sure you're right. Even still, their were probably hundreds or thousands of masters for every one of the Order's 250 odd centuries. Twenty is still a statistically non-existant number. I can state as a fact that the Order had 10000 "Jedi", but I am not sure if that aplies just to full knights, or to every padawan, youngling, etc. Hey, I know a fact about the Star Wars Galaxy you don't. Cool! I'm sure there are a lot more, Star Wars is huge. Balance the Force by killing all Sith Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged rogueueunit10 Force Sensitive member is offline Shock trooper phase 2 armor Joined: May 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 13 Location: In a galaxy far far away Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #39 on May 31, 2009, 7:23am » They arent evil cos without them the universe would have been destroyed in the sith wars but they use the clones like prisoners that they send out to fight and they dont care if they die but they would only care if a clone commander died and i think they are idiots because of that Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged darklordxeno Force Sensitive member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 7 Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #40 on Aug 4, 2009, 9:31pm » I have nothing to say because that argument between Skywalker and thelastadmiral was very tiring to read for me! So, goodbye and may the force be with you!!! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Maestro Jedi Knight member is offline "If music be the food of love, play on."-Shakespeare Joined: Apr 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 1,338 Location: Hyperspace Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #41 on Aug 14, 2009, 6:54am » I stick by what I have said before. The exact definition of evil is "morally bad or wrong", and since morals are different for each, the jedi can't be universally evil. Nobody is universally evil, because they belive they are doing the world right. The jedi thought that they were doing exactly what's best. Luminya and Jacen Solo once said, "To bring justice and order to the galaxy-" "We must control it" That shows that even the sith believed they were doing the right thing. As Ben Kenobi once said, "Only a sith deals in absolutes". Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Bach rocks!!! http://musicmeaning-maestro.blogspot.com/ thelastadmiral Back to the Light member is offline Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 725 Location: Toronto, Canada Re: Are the Jedi evil? « Reply #42 on Aug 30, 2009, 3:40am » Aug 14, 2009, 6:54am, Maestro wrote: I stick by what I have said before. The exact definition of evil is "morally bad or wrong", and since morals are different for each, the jedi can't be universally evil. Nobody is universally evil, because they belive they are doing the world right. The jedi thought that they were doing exactly what's best. Luminya and Jacen Solo once said, "To bring justice and order to the galaxy-" "We must control it" That shows that even the sith believed they were doing the right thing. Apologies for bumping a somewhat old thread. I haven't been around for a while. Anyway, I would argue that some actions are universally right or wrong, but that one can do the wrong thing with good intentions, and still be a good person. I feel this was probably the case with some of the Jedi, who were committing evil acts (ie slavery, kidnapping, war crimes) with the best of intentions, not out of malice or selfishness but simply because that's how they had been taught to think by their own Master. Quote: As Ben Kenobi once said, "Only a sith deals in absolutes". As that is in itself an absolute, it is possibly the most ironic line in all of Star Wars. 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